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Post by leilani on Jan 25, 2010 13:36:59 GMT -10
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Post by dvg on Jan 25, 2010 14:26:16 GMT -10
My first thought was N. (jacquelineae x albomarginata).
Then I remembered that N. talangensis also has a white collar beneath the peristome. So it could also be N. (jacquelineae x talangensis).
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Post by walterg on Jan 25, 2010 16:49:46 GMT -10
DVG, look closely at other species, too. For example, bicalcarata has a band under the peristome. Contrary to the popular notion, a band does not automatically mean albomarginata. This is probably just a pure jaq.
... And its looking good, Sam. How's the gymnamphora doing?
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Post by boris on Jan 26, 2010 23:15:23 GMT -10
maybe dubia involved?
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Post by amori on Jan 26, 2010 23:54:21 GMT -10
I'm with Walter, pure jacquelineae.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jan 28, 2010 11:45:31 GMT -10
N. jacquelineae. The over-sized nectar glands on the lid are diagnostic.
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Post by sirkristoff on Jan 30, 2010 12:59:52 GMT -10
i too say pure jacq....
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Post by dvg on Feb 1, 2010 17:25:37 GMT -10
Going by pictures I've seen of jacquelineae, I am wondering if there isn't an N. inermis influence going on there in Leilani's pitcher. First off, the translucent patchwork veining pattern on the pitcher's body reminds me of my inermis pitchers, and the patterning seems quite different than that seen on my much smaller jacq's. The almost complete absence of wings and the shortened gap of front teeth on Leilani's pitcher, plus the rounded 'chin' of the pitcher, instead of being squared off and more sculpted looking makes me again wonder if inermis could be involved here. I compared Leilani's pitcher to Osmosis' jacq in the 'Year in the life' thread. Interestingly, Osmosis's jacq did have a slight white band under it's peristome as well, but not nearly as pronounced as the band in Leilani's pictures. lhnn.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=s&action=display&thread=1623And lastly, the yellowish green color of this pitcher closely resembles N. inermis' pitcher coloration. |
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Post by leilani on Feb 3, 2010 13:59:18 GMT -10
N. jacquelineae (Wistuba)
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Post by Dave Evans on Feb 5, 2010 13:35:17 GMT -10
Going by pictures I've seen of jacquelineae, I am wondering if there isn't an N. inermis influence going on there in Leilani's pitcher. First off, the translucent patchwork veining pattern on the pitcher's body reminds me of my inermis pitchers, and the patterning seems quite different than that seen on my much smaller jacq's. Everything you say is true, and that's because N. jacquelineae and N. inermis are closely related. They form a group of close relatives, incluing N. flava, N. dubia and N. jamban. |
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Post by dvg on Feb 6, 2010 13:28:50 GMT -10
Walterg, now I'm curious as to how many other Nepenthes species have a white band under their peristomes. Dave Evans, that makes sense, because come to think of it, all of the species you have listed above all seem to have yellowish colored uppers with a more viscous/sticky pitcher fluid. I wonder if they are tending to attract more flying insects, in the kind of way that yellow sticky strips attact flying insects in greenhouses and nurseries. Also on a side note, do you know if N. tenuis is closely related to this group of bowl shaped Neps stated above by you? Leilani, I think I was looking for a curveball from you, but you instead served up an offspeed pitch right over the center of the plate...good job of always keeping us guessing.  |
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Post by vraev on Feb 6, 2010 14:14:35 GMT -10
Spectacular as always Sam!! Terrific jacq.
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Post by Dave Evans on Feb 7, 2010 14:49:12 GMT -10
Also on a side note, do you know if N. tenuis is closely related to this group of bowl shaped Neps stated above by you? Hmm, not sure... The habit of the plants seem very similar... N. aristolochioides and N. talangensis seem to make up their own group, I'm not sure if N. tenuis is closer to them or to the inermis-group... |
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Post by leilani on Feb 21, 2010 20:11:39 GMT -10
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Post by philgreen on Feb 22, 2010 0:56:59 GMT -10
Is this the jaq now open, or another one ?
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