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Bugman
Jul 7, 2008 1:42:29 GMT -10
Post by bugman on Jul 7, 2008 1:42:29 GMT -10
Origin: Singapore Botanical Gardens (Nature's Niche) Tissue Cultured nep Plant: Before it was harden
Same plant after it was harden
Recent pic taken in late June Lower Pitcher:
Upper Pitcher: Lid: Lid: Lid: Leaf: Attachment: Attachment: Inflorescence: Notes: this tissue cultured nep was labeled as N.Thorelii. Need to confirm if it really is what it is.
Please let me know if more pics are needed to ID this nep
Many thanks in advance.
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Bugman
Jul 7, 2008 9:36:54 GMT -10
Post by phissionkorps on Jul 7, 2008 9:36:54 GMT -10
I would keep the label of thorelii for now. However, you probably need sockhom/marcello to tell you if its "really" thorelii or not. I guess it's probably really smilesii. The leaf margins seem to be hairy, and I can never remember which species that is indicative of.
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Dave Evans
Nobiles
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Bugman
Jul 7, 2008 22:08:15 GMT -10
Post by Dave Evans on Jul 7, 2008 22:08:15 GMT -10
Several species have hairy leaf margins. This species is probably N. smilesii, but I have also seen this one called N. anamensis and also N. kampotiana, but the identification of the species endemic to Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam has not been completed. We don't know how to define them completely as this group has only just started being researched again after about 100 years of scientific neglect. I expect more research will lead to these species being realigned, perhaps a couple times before there is consensus.
People use to think this species was a form of N. mirabilis... Where did that idea even come from? I have read the entire history and still can't figured that one out. It can't be N. kampotiana as that species is hair-less. No one can figure out what is on the type specimen sheet for N. anamensis as is in poor shape, perhaps genetic testing of the tissue for comparison to living plants will be possible in the future.
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Bugman
Jul 7, 2008 22:14:38 GMT -10
Post by sockhom on Jul 7, 2008 22:14:38 GMT -10
I agree with Dave. It is probably N.smiilesii but we can't be sure. We re waiting for more official researches.
François.
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Bugman
Jul 8, 2008 21:53:47 GMT -10
Post by bugman on Jul 8, 2008 21:53:47 GMT -10
Hi all
thank you for taking time to ID my nep. I noticed that mature N.Thorelii have long tendril. Could that be a possible way to ID? Mine have very short tendril with it's pitchers near the tip of the leaves.
I have posted a few more pics
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Dave Evans
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Bugman
Jul 9, 2008 13:40:06 GMT -10
Post by Dave Evans on Jul 9, 2008 13:40:06 GMT -10
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Bugman
Aug 10, 2008 2:13:33 GMT -10
Post by Marcello Catalano on Aug 10, 2008 2:13:33 GMT -10
Hi! definately N. smilesii Marcello
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