N. Edwardsiana hybrid

[robert]

Hi I was hoping that someone would be able to identify this plant for me it was sold as an edwardsiana hybrid but I don’t know what other nepenthes it has been crossed with.
the first photo was sent to me to show what the plant would look like full grow.
The other photos are of my plants they are still a bit small but starting to show some colour.

[Dave Evans]

Dear Robert,

I don't see any N. edwardsiana in this plant. But identification is not possible just from looking at the pitchers... Please take a couple shots of the entire plant. Oh, and get your money back. Well, it does sort of look like it could be N. edwardsiana * N. mirabilis, but that is just a shot in the dark.

[rsivertsen]

I agree, it looks more like a N. steno hybrid to me. - Rich

[walterg]

I agree. I don't see any edwardsiana in it. The adult pitchers DO remind me of a plant that was sold as pure edwardsiana to a young teenaged fool named Walter back in the early 1970s. It came from a nursery in Reseda, California, who's name I can't remember.

[rainforest]

I think I can see N. hamata in it.

M

[robert]

i did think it may have a bit of raff in it its hard to see in the photos but the pitchers are white.
Anyway here are a few photos of the plants

[Dave Evans]

Yeah, this is not a positive ID, but it sort of looks like what I would expect N. rafflesiana * N. trichocarpa to display. But the leaf shape does not seem to be a match for the resulting the hybrid, N. stewartii.

Do tell, who sold you this plant? The one photo that might show some N. e. influence is in the top left photo, which shows a pitcher with an expanded peristome, the shape of which is reminiscent of N. e., but there doesn't even appear there are ribs on the peristome. Does the peristome have teeth?

N. e. does have canaliculate petioles, like your plant. Still I can't understand how someone would make a N. edwardsiana hybrid and not know what the other parent is, or at least provide a list of the other possibilities.

[sirkristoff]

I also agree with dave, like i posted on this topic earlier today on GCSG, the only pitcher i see resembling edwardsiana is the top left one in the first photo with the way the peristome expands, But also like he said you cant judge just by pitchers...im not in any way a taxonomist, but i still dont see edwardsiana unless its one of the monster burb x eddy plants crossed with a trichocarpa or raff...since im sure burb x eddy has been flowered by now...

[robert]

Yeah the peristome has ribs but not much bigger than some of my other plants.
I got the plants from a local nursery along with some N.ramispina x N.ventricosa and N. Ventrata they all came from the same supplier as they where in the same type of plug trays.
The staff at the nursery had no idea where the plants originally came from and would not tell me who their supplier was.

[sirkristoff]

strange...where are you from Robert?

[robert]

Australia?

[robert]

Plants have grown a lot over the last week and I have noticed that the peristome has started to develop more prominent ribs still looks like it has raff in it.
What does everyone else think?

[wijaya]

robert: what do you think if I say it is N. x Dyeriana? I got one from Fauzi and it looks similar to your posted pic above, he told me it is from Taiwan.

Ed

[robert]

hi wijaya
I think that it is N. x Dyeriana, had a good look at some photos of N. x Dyeriana and it looks very much like it.
thanks to all for their help with this plant.

[walterg]

N. x Dyeriana is quite hairy, and I don't see that in your photos.

And I'm sure Dave meant to say "canaliculate".

Ducking,
WG