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Post by sockhom on Apr 30, 2008 8:01:48 GMT -10
Hello. Here is the link to my full lengh field report. Other articles on this new species will follow (taxonomy, comparison with other cambodian and Indochina species...): www.nepenthesofthailand.com/MapCambo.htmFrançois Mey.
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Post by rainforest on Apr 30, 2008 10:46:08 GMT -10
Please tell us how the name came about? is it in reference to the locality name? or perhaps the person discovering this species or M
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Post by sockhom on Apr 30, 2008 11:08:59 GMT -10
Hi Michael ! Hey mate, read the report when you will have spare time. The name has been coined after Bokor Hill (1080 masl) where I have found the plants. I like that name. François.
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Post by phissionkorps on Apr 30, 2008 12:46:59 GMT -10
Why not N. bokoriensis? How do you get away with not giving a Latin name? This seems to be the only genus I've ever encountered where people are allowed to not give Latin names.
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Post by sockhom on Apr 30, 2008 21:34:48 GMT -10
This is latin Ron, even if it sounds not. Martin Cheek chose to put the name on apposition instead on "bokoriensis". That's the explanation he gave to Marcello. That would imply that Nepenthes bokor does not mean "Nepenthes from Bokor" but "the Nepenthes called Bokor". Apposition, just like in "Hub City" . François.
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Post by phissionkorps on Apr 30, 2008 21:48:51 GMT -10
Ohhhhh. Now I get it. Thanks for the explanation. Still wondering about rajah, jamban, etc though.
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Post by sockhom on Apr 30, 2008 22:30:55 GMT -10
Hi Ron ! I checked the ICBN for you. Here's a quote: "Article 23 23.1. The name of a species is a binary combination consisting of the name of the genus followed by a single specific epithet in the form of an adjective, a noun in the genitive, or a word in apposition, or several words, but not a phrase name of one or more descriptive nouns and associated adjectives in the ablative (see Art. 23.6(a)), nor certain other irregularly formed designations (see Art. 23.6(c)). If an epithet consists of two or more words, these are to be united or hyphenated. An epithet not so joined when originally published is not to be rejected but, when used, is to be united or hyphenated, as specified in Art. 60.9." The whole article: www.bgbm.org/iapt/nomenclature/code/saintlouis/0001ICSLContents.htmSo if the word in apposition is in khmer language, it will remains so. My only criticism is that N. bokor is not only found on Bokor Hill but, then again, we already have that the same problem with N. lowii or many other species. To avoid naming based on a single (too restricted) locality is just a recommendation of the ICBN. To put a word in apposition is very convenient, you can be original and use of words like "jamban" ;D (how could they dare?? ;D), "rajah" is then possible. I suppose taxonomists of other genus are sometimes more classicaly trained. François.
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Post by phissionkorps on Apr 30, 2008 22:56:52 GMT -10
Wow thanks for finding that. Very informative, albeit a bit dense lol.
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Post by sockhom on Apr 30, 2008 23:01:23 GMT -10
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Post by gymnamphora on May 1, 2008 8:17:26 GMT -10
Nepenthes bokor, I think that is a exact name.. good idea on choosing the name..
Same word but different in meaning...In Indonesian, bokor is kind of bowl with wide rim made from silver or copper.. the shape of bowl remind of Nepenthes pitcher...
Congratulation..
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Post by sockhom on Sept 22, 2008 2:24:11 GMT -10
Hello . I keep some N. bokor seedlings for my own collection and I have to say that I'm delighted to note that they show some significant variations. Here are the two extremes of the "phenotype" I have: 1/ Tubby pitchers, short wings: 2/ The second plant develops almost pyriform pitchers and larger lid and wings. The difference with the previous specimen is striking. Note also that the two specimens receive the same amount of light and are grown in the same soil. I also have an intermediate of those two "forms". François.
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Post by unclemasa on Feb 20, 2009 18:33:22 GMT -10
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Post by sockhom on Mar 24, 2009 7:41:41 GMT -10
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