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Post by periukkera on Oct 12, 2008 21:30:56 GMT -10
Hi All, I just came back from my trip to Ranau, I found 8 species of nepenthes live together in same place; N. burbidgeae, fusca, gracilis, macrovulgaris, mirabilis, reinwardtiana, stenophylla, zakriana & fallax (maybe). Some hybrids; burbidgeae x (reinwardtiana, stenophylla & fusca), stenophylla x fusca & reinwardtiana x fusca. I hope you all enjoy. Tq N. burbidgeae x reinwardtiana N. reinwardtiana N. stenophylla x fusca I just lable under name N. burbidgeae x stenophylla I thought it new species. 13" upper stenophylla black fusca lower and upper pitchers of N. burbidgeae x fusca N. reinwardtiana N. macrovulgaris N. stenophylla
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Post by rainforest on Oct 14, 2008 11:11:00 GMT -10
Excellent photo spread on these hybrids and species. Is there any chance you can tell us what elevation did these occur at? I am more curious if highland pollen travels lower elevation in making a hybrid, or do some populations of either highland species grows at a lower elevation or vice verse so a cross pollination result may occur.
Many thanks for your insight to this very controversial topic.
M
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Post by periukkera on Oct 14, 2008 22:37:44 GMT -10
Hi, The plants are found at elevation around 1,600 - 1,700 asl. I just saw a plant of mirabilis and gracilis at elevation 1600, there have a lot of reinwartiana, fusca & stenphylla & burb hybrids. N. burbidgeae can be found in elevation 1700 with fusca, reinwartiana, stenophylla and macrovulgaris, some people saw N. rajah & maroon ampullaria in this area. Temperature not much difference than lowland but since this location very close to mountain the temperature can drop to 18 Celsius at night or less than that. Randie Excellent photo spread on these hybrids and species. Is there any chance you can tell us what elevation did these occur at? I am more curious if highland pollen travels lower elevation in making a hybrid, or do some populations of either highland species grows at a lower elevation or vice verse so a cross pollination result may occur. Many thanks for your insight to this very controversial topic. M
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Post by Dave Evans on Oct 15, 2008 7:02:37 GMT -10
Hello Randie,
Thank-you for the report and very nice photos. Ranau sounds like pitcher plant heaven!
Did you take any pictures of the plants thought to be N. zakriana or N. fallax?
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Post by sdcarnivores on Oct 17, 2008 14:35:30 GMT -10
I definitely think the lower pitcher in pic number 8 has stenophylla in it (if not pure stenophylla), while the upper is pure burbidgeae. But awesome pics! I do love stenophylla, one of my fav species .
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Post by periukkera on Oct 23, 2008 21:37:19 GMT -10
Hi Dave I just take one pic of zakriana, looks like N. fusca but the leaf & tendril difference. The leaf looks like this (from suska): Hello Randie, Thank-you for the report and very nice photos. Ranau sounds like pitcher plant heaven! Did you take any pictures of the plants thought to be N. zakriana or N. fallax?
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Post by periukkera on Oct 23, 2008 21:57:49 GMT -10
Hi, I add more pic from this plant here Same plant with pitcher in pictures number 5 & 8. Please check out this Maliau Basin pitcher plant www.flickr.com/photos/jessebek/1373912271/in/photostream/It is new species? I definitely think the lower pitcher in pic number 8 has stenophylla in it (if not pure stenophylla), while the upper is pure burbidgeae. But awesome pics! I do love stenophylla, one of my fav species .
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Post by nepaholic on Oct 23, 2008 23:30:24 GMT -10
I believe this is a burbidgeae x fusca i got last week a picture of this plant and it really looks so. I also got pictures of burbidgeae x stenophylla, because i got many seeds of this in february. I dont know if i´m allowed to post them here, but the burbidgeae x stenophylla looks exactly like this picture farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2937529550_da2b2d048f_o.jpgJens
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Post by Dave Evans on Oct 24, 2008 13:33:25 GMT -10
Hi Dave I just take one pic of zakriana, looks like N. fusca but the leaf & tendril difference. The leaf looks like this (from suska): Hello Randie, Hmm, this can be described as a peltate tendril insertion, or a peltate tendril attachment. However, this feature is not very useful for species identification, but rather some species make leaves like this more often than other species do, but nearly all Nepenthes species can make such shaped leaf tips, especially when the plants are mature and entering into upper growth. How many plants of N. z. did you find?
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Post by sdcarnivores on Oct 26, 2008 8:02:58 GMT -10
Hi, I add more pic from this plant here Same plant with pitcher in pictures number 5 & 8. Please check out this Maliau Basin pitcher plant www.flickr.com/photos/jessebek/1373912271/in/photostream/It is new species? I definitely think the lower pitcher in pic number 8 has stenophylla in it (if not pure stenophylla), while the upper is pure burbidgeae. But awesome pics! I do love stenophylla, one of my fav species . Ok, I see now. And yea, it looks more to me like stenophylla and burbidgeae than fusca and burbidgeae, mostly because of the lid shape.
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Post by chesara on Nov 7, 2008 13:11:02 GMT -10
Yes great photos ,very luckt to see such beauties in the wild. Bye for now Julian
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