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Post by rainforest on Jun 22, 2010 8:06:56 GMT -10
The caffein may also play a role in killing soil microbes and insects. But I still would prefer to use a fertilizer made for plants used instead.
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Post by Dave Evans on Jun 22, 2010 8:20:59 GMT -10
Err, MaxSea is made from what?
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Post by rainforest on Jun 22, 2010 8:30:42 GMT -10
Maxsea is made from seaweed AND is FORMULATED for plants. The coffee is hit and miss without any recipe or dilution rate for its activity. Yeah it works, but without any formulation to back it up, so how does one grower achieve the same results if they do not follow a recommended formulation.
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Post by jgriffin on Jun 22, 2010 11:28:43 GMT -10
Mike actually has a valid point this time.. J/K Mike.. ;D But yes, I have been wondering the same thing. I happen to have my newly aquired Maxsea right here. Recommended dosage is: Outdoor containers: One heaping tablespoon/gallon(enough solution to drain thru container) Indoor containers: Two teaspoons/gallon Peter D'Amato's recommendation for cp: one teaspoon/gallon.
Would "outdoor container" refer to Michael's or Sam's plants, and "indoor container" to capslock's? I guess you have something to ponder there about growing conditions and how effective plants use nutrients.
Dave you actually use the grounds leftover, right? I think some have been dumping a cup of coffee in the pots. (Note Dave is actually using something that 99.99 % of the time gets tossed as opposed to a consumable cup of coffee). What's the diff between grounds and liquid coffee? What does a double dose of instant do? Is there a diff between pouring a bit in, and enough to let it drain through?
Cheers,
Joe
PS I do not think decaf and regular make a difference, but who knows?
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Post by sirkristoff on Jun 22, 2010 14:19:45 GMT -10
i just poor the coffee through till it runs out then flush a couple days later, have noticed nothing but positive signs with it...though i have used orchid ferts too, i think coffee is just a little more easily available for me lol, step dad drinks it like mad and leaves the leftover for me to save for neps rofl, he laughs at me for it, but hey it works :\ lol.
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Post by rainforest on Jun 22, 2010 16:20:07 GMT -10
Wouldn't the same idea apply with an unformulated coffee dilution rate for coffee? With coffee it could be a super double expresso at Starbucks strength or maybe a light taster's choice instant mix!
Coffee isn't just coffee!
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Post by jgriffin on Jun 23, 2010 3:18:12 GMT -10
Yes Michael, that's what I said in the bottom half of that post.
Joe
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Post by rainforest on Jun 23, 2010 7:37:52 GMT -10
Still a coffee treatment is a hit and miss plight, when fertilizers are more on the money. Results you get in one town can be duplicated in another.
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Post by jgriffin on Jun 23, 2010 8:16:37 GMT -10
I am agreeing with you. Fertilizer has been around long enough to where the dosage is laid out, and you can fry a plant if you exceed it. I have not heard where anybody has used too much coffee.
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Post by rainforest on Jun 23, 2010 12:05:48 GMT -10
...yet
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Post by jgriffin on Jun 23, 2010 14:14:39 GMT -10
Well, if somebody does and fesses up to it, it would be informative.
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Post by sirkristoff on Jun 23, 2010 14:38:04 GMT -10
lol, if it happens to me, youll definitely hear about it...
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Post by kakamac on Jun 24, 2010 3:30:09 GMT -10
G'day All, As a relative newbie to the idea of fertilizing and to keeping Nepenthes I have a few questions I hope someone can answer regarding fertilizing. 1. If I fertilize with coffee every 6 months as I've seen suggested and been told, can I still use another fertilizer such as seasol (a liquid seaweed fertilizer)? 2. Has anyone used Seasol and if so what are your results? 3. Would you recommend Seasol? For those of you who do not use seasol the website is www.seasol.com.au/4. To those who have not used seasol from what you read on the website would you try it or recommend giving it a go? Sorry if my questions sound stupid but I'm interested to see what people's results and opinions are. Many thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Jade
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Post by peterhewitt on Jun 24, 2010 3:44:40 GMT -10
I have not used it. having had a look, i would say yes. Most Kelp or seaweed extractions are good to use on Nepenthes and other Carny plants. I would however Dilute at first and work my way up to a suitable ratio.
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Post by thezyo on Jun 24, 2010 3:59:32 GMT -10
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