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Post by leilani on May 22, 2010 14:48:35 GMT -10
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Post by dvg on May 22, 2010 15:25:18 GMT -10
That fourth photo really shows off this pitcher's color and shape nicely.
She's a beauty.
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Post by cosmo on May 22, 2010 17:34:31 GMT -10
Nice plant with nice uppers! congrats leilani..
Regards
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Post by vraev on May 23, 2010 5:51:49 GMT -10
I gotta say....that name made me look.  LOL! I must say I was expecting something more 'black'. But not bad. |
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Post by walterg on May 23, 2010 18:38:42 GMT -10
Not bad? NOT BAD? It's gorgeous!
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Post by mikuláš on May 24, 2010 4:23:31 GMT -10
Reminds me of thorelii x aristolochioides, except with a more interesting peristome and perhaps a more graceful shape. Very, very nice!
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Post by shihtzu on May 24, 2010 8:34:07 GMT -10
hhmmm, it resembles thorelli x aristolocoides..
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Post by vraev on May 25, 2010 14:33:54 GMT -10
Not bad? NOT BAD? It's gorgeous! yes Ofcourse! SHe is gorgeous. As people mentioned...looks very much like an aristo hybrid...or infact something close to a klossii...well...a clean shaven klossii.  I am just commenting on the name... Dark Knight made me automatically assume something with the color of a ramispina. |
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Post by leilani on May 25, 2010 22:17:01 GMT -10
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Post by vraev on May 27, 2010 13:13:15 GMT -10
Now...that is waay different from the uppers. That is more like it....and thats AWSOME!!!!!! Beauty Sam.... A real beauty!!
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Post by dvg on May 27, 2010 13:46:48 GMT -10
Those lowers are quite a bit darker than those gorgeous uppers.
But to my uneducated eye, I just can't shake the glimpsed image of aristolochioides hauntingly lurking somewhere in this hybrid. It must be the talangensis that is confusing me.
dvg
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Post by leilani on May 27, 2010 13:54:34 GMT -10
The truth is that I much prefer talangensis to aristolochiodes, especially in hybrids. Both, in hybrid combinations, tend to move the mouth of the pitcher toward the front of the pitcher.
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Post by dvg on May 27, 2010 14:21:20 GMT -10
And aristo also tends to impart a hunchbacked look to it's progeny that some don't find too appealing either.
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Post by vraev on May 28, 2010 13:48:14 GMT -10
It makes me wonder if talangensis, aristo, klossii, maxima are somehow related in the distant past. and ofcourse..then maxima, vogelii, and almost every other species seems to be related....just according to pitcher morphology/uppers etc.
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Post by mikuláš on Jul 6, 2010 4:21:41 GMT -10
OK, so I know this thread is a bit old, but I've been thinking about this plant and wanted to put a couple questions out there for Sam: If you compare the photos of 'Dark Night' to those of 'Puna', it seems the 'Dark Night' lower pitchers (and maybe uppers, too?) are a lot smaller than the those of 'Puna'. What do you contribute the size difference to? Are the whole plants of 'Dark Night' generally smaller than the 'Puna' grex? To me it looked like the 'Rokko' pitchers (female parent of 'Dark Night') are somewhat smaller than the maxima you used to make 'Puna', but perhaps not enough to explain the apparent size difference. I guess I'm basically curious whether you think the presence of the "thorelii" in the female parent tipped the scales so that the progeny would be smaller-statured plants vis-a-vis 'Puna', which differs by only one "ingredient". Part of my general curiosity of how to breed small plants  |
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LOL! I must say I was expecting something more 'black'. 
I am just commenting on the name... Dark Knight made me automatically assume something with the color of a ramispina. 
