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Post by gre3nmind on Sept 21, 2008 12:37:08 GMT -10
Well I was thinking of all the classic latinized names (ex. Cantleyi, bellii, benstonei, etc) and it then occurred with my last name it'd be creamerii, creamera, creameriana, creamereae, etc. I thought how odd and rediculously funny they sound. So I was wondering what other proper ways there are for naming a species/hybrid when using your name or someone else's or making it up from stratch.
So what would you do?
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Post by Noa_F on Sept 21, 2008 13:21:28 GMT -10
Haha that means that mine would be Flahertyii, Flahertiana, or Flaherteae
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obregon562
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Post by obregon562 on Sept 21, 2008 14:25:27 GMT -10
I dont believe there are "other" ways to do it. The only reasons the other species named after someone dont sound funny is because we are used to them. Most neps are named after people though.
N. lowii, veitchii, belli, adrianii, argentii (i think), burkei, klossi, macfarleni, edwardsiana, lamii, jacquelineae, izumiae, vogelli, rajah, pervillei, junghuhnii, etc...
I have to admit, i like the sound of Nepenthes obregonii! My goal is to at least make a N. x 'Obregonii'/"obregonii".
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victoria
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Post by victoria on Sept 21, 2008 15:33:19 GMT -10
I think I would use my first name....but I also think I would feel weird naming a plant after myself so I would probably try to come up with something from scratch.
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Post by nepenthesfreak on Sept 21, 2008 15:44:50 GMT -10
Bob.
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Post by rainforest on Sept 22, 2008 8:57:07 GMT -10
Nepenthes flava = Nepenthes bogus-amongus I like it better, has a nice ring to it. And the name has nothing to do with color!
M
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Post by gre3nmind on Sept 22, 2008 13:23:19 GMT -10
I'd buy it. Sounds like something I'd have in the garden.
Rob
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Post by unclemasa on Sept 22, 2008 23:21:00 GMT -10
nEPenTheS369 .....
What's up with all the new stuff?
a new name and a new quote ...
"The natural way always provides the best result. Take the Himilayas for example..."
What kind of example is that? What the hell is "best result" in this context? And, its spelled Himalayas!
and what exactly is
"GNC services
(Global Nepenthes Conservation)"
Who are these guys and what are the services they provide? I hope you are not becoming involved with some dead animal and fire cult again (?)
and ....
"That's why I was put on this planet."
You believe that you were "placed here" and "placed here" with a purpose. Would this be God or aliens or were you transported from the past or future, or maybe, some secret global network of conservationists put you here while wiping you memory of where you are really supposed to be? How was your "purpose" revealed to you? Perhaps, a revelation while under the influence of some sacrament? ;D
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Post by twoton on Sept 23, 2008 2:43:41 GMT -10
Now there's a juicy tidbit that makes me crave more info. Pray tell, what's going on here? :-)
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Post by gre3nmind on Sept 23, 2008 20:29:06 GMT -10
Well Sam it's been a mix of several things.... First for the name changing, I had originally thought of changing it to something more creative like I was going to when I first found the forums, but after some trials I decided to change it back to a closer variant of the name on all of the forums but I wanted to leave it still mixed up compared to the original and so my graffiti inspiration left it being mixed between lower and capital letters. I still would prefer a different name but I'm still playing with it (it was just time for a metamorphosis, I have one of these every once in a while). The quote was a metaphor for seed being stronger than Tissue Culture (maybe not always the plants but for the species themselves, especially with the native habitats being disturbed if not destroyed) for the Himalayas I chose it due to it being a large dominant natural form that couldn't be man made, since so many things are being proclaimed as better than when it's been cut and cut and cut, diluted and everything else, synthetic isn't always better and from what I've seen not much of it is even close to being a substitute. Thanks for the spelling correction I thought something was off, wasn't positive though. The GNC was just a parody (closest I could get at least to GMC) A sad attempt, with a good cause in thought. Well I might have been sent by aliens I'm pretty sure the governments are out to destroy the world and all living things. But I have the passion and drive for these plants like no other thing I've ever been driven by. They actually make me think years down the road instead of the several feet ahead like I had more so done in the past, (the whole live like it is your last). Other than that just being me, a backwards thinking forward slightly confused at times regular person. Hope this isn't too far out. As for the fires and all only small pit fires on the beach accompanied by at least a friend, night sky, and a 'fixed' mental state. Aside from that I'm looking at classes to hopefully start next Spring in the Botany-Biology realm to pick up in the lacking areas so I have a bit broader idea of what is happening with the plants and what I can do to encourage them onto many generations to come. Rob nEPenTheS369 ..... What's up with all the new stuff? a new name and a new quote ... "The natural way always provides the best result. Take the Himilayas for example..." What kind of example is that? What the hell is "best result" in this context? And, its spelled Himalayas! and what exactly is "GNC services (Global Nepenthes Conservation)" Who are these guys and what are the services they provide? I hope you are not becoming involved with some dead animal and fire cult again (?) and .... "That's why I was put on this planet." You believe that you were "placed here" and "placed here" with a purpose. Would this be God or aliens or were you transported from the past or future, or maybe, some secret global network of conservationists put you here while wiping you memory of where you are really supposed to be? How was your "purpose" revealed to you? Perhaps, a revelation while under the influence of some sacrament? ;D
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Post by phissionkorps on Oct 5, 2008 15:04:47 GMT -10
You're a man, so "-eae" and "-iana" endings won't fly.
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Post by Robiii on Oct 6, 2008 13:33:21 GMT -10
Thanks for that wasn't aware.
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Post by sockhom on Oct 9, 2008 19:50:09 GMT -10
Rainforest wrote:
"N. aristolochioides looks more like an aristiolochia than N. flava will ever be yellow. N. aristolochioides is coined after the windows of light that chambers through the windows of color patterns which line the petal in the same way that N. aristolochioides patterns itself after it. To me it is well named after that mimic. To name N. flava with that name would be like naming the first N. ampullaria that was discovered as a green species and calling it N. viridis. Thus a red amp, a black amp, a mottled amp, a red lipped amp and so forth will all coin the same name. But the reason why they were not called a color-name is because the discoverer did his homework and studied all plants to see the range and give it a name that will apply for all forms of that species. Aren't you glad N. rafflesiana wasn't named N. purpurea? If that happened, we would have so many false sub species name such as N. purpurea v. viridis, N. p. v. marmorata, N. p. v. multicolor, N., p. v. alba, N. p. v. rosea, N. p. v. rubra, N. p. v. fusca, N. p. v. tricolor, N. p. v. variegata, N. p. v. microstigma, N. p. v. labio-rubra, N. p. v. labio-striata, N. p. v. etc. etc etc, when all along each clone can replicate itself as the single entity of the species name itself. In other words a very variable species not color specific to a single species form. Do the homework and don't rush the name game. Besides I like N. banana more appropriately because it says a lot more than just color for the name!
Sha-pon sha-pon!
M"
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Post by Robiii on Oct 10, 2008 0:36:49 GMT -10
This is what I had hoped for in a species of variation.
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Post by rainforest on Oct 10, 2008 13:01:51 GMT -10
N. banana is so appropriate, because the name doesn't elude to color alone, as we all know we have red bananas, green bananas, purple bananas, and of course yellow bananas.
N. banana works for me.
M
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