2 new species from Sumatra?

[sockhom]

Hello .


These two taxa have been discovered by our dear Longor a while ago. I really think they are both new species. What are your thoughts?

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François.

[obregon562]

incredible plants! Forcked tongues?! Wow! I think they are both new species, but the 2nd one may be a hybrid...thanks for the re-post francois

[Dave Evans]

Yeah, I had a similar thought, "could it be a hybrid?" But the problem with that idea is what other species has petiolate leaves from this area? None except this plant...

[Robiii]

Exactly what I thought, Dave.

I was originally going to say the second plant looked like a ventricosa or sibuyanensis crossed to argentii or even clipeata or a more complex hybrid similar to. Then realizing these are from Sumatra, thought of the possibilities of the first plant being a complex hybrid of maxima and spathulata at least.

Thanks francois for the rewind.

[rainforest]

Longor wrote to me regarding the first species. He was very enthralled about seeing pairs of like species cohabitating the same locales. There was a jacquelineae type growing together with an izumiae type, another location had a lingulata types (like an izumiae type) and Jamban or other (like a Jac mimic), and this and I believe that banana species. Not sure if I got the pairing right, but it goes something like that.

As for names:
For the first species, just don't call it N. fuscoides or something referring to color. That's old!

The next one shouldn't be called rubra either! Color descript names are so weak.

Stay tuned, we'll see what the "experts" call them.

M