Pitcher's pictures

[wijaya]

N. alata var Boschiana mimic


N. ampullaria




N. insignis


N. neoguineensis (var 1)

N. neoguineensis (var 2)


N. mirabilis var. echinos


N. rafflesiana
var white

var red

var green peristome

var alata & frilled


N. reinwardtiana var Samarindaniensis


N. sumatrana


N. xKuchingensis



N. mirabilis x globosa (seeds grown)


N. thorelii x rafflesiana

love the peristome


N. ventricosa x merriliana (EP)


N. lowii x campanulata (EP)


Bulbophyllum echinolabium


Ed

[rsivertsen]

Very nice and healthy plants there Ed, but I think that your N. alata "boschiana mimic" is just a typical N. alata, as the "boschiana mimic" has a less oblique peristome, sometimes a slightly vaulted lid and a more bulbous, squat digestive zone; just my $0.02. - Rich

[Dave Evans]

Dear Ed and Rich,

The plant shown could be the mislabeled clone, it is certainly the same species (which probably isn't even actually N. alata) as boschiana mimic.

But, unless the plant makes very swollen pitcher bases, I really doubt it could the "boschiana mimic" clone. Unless heat levels and other conditions affect the pitcher shape--I grow mine as a highlander. But even my plant will occasionally make a pitcher which looks a lot like Ed's.

What I find rather funny about the name is, while this species looks nothing like N. boschiana, this particular clone makes pitchers which are very similar in shape to those of N. eustachya. The name really should have been "eustachya mimic". Oh well...

[wijaya]

@rich: probably wrong label put by the supplier, but well it is just not the same clone as the other one I got, the BE alata that is molted under the lid. Thanks for the nice comment.

@dave: Well, very true. I don't know how this clone got the name from, but will just take it as one of the fun part of growing. Probably also like you said, grown in lowland changed the pitcher shape, size and coloration. I will update the picture again in the future.

Ed

[rsivertsen]

Oct 18, 2009 23:04:36 GMT -10 Dave Evans said:

What I find rather funny about the name is, while this species looks nothing like N. boschiana, this particular clone makes pitchers which are very similar in shape to those of N. eustachya. The name really should have been "eustachya mimic". Oh well...

Yeah, but when I got that plant from Longwood Gardens years ago (along with their N. ventricosa and several other forms of N. alata, the red forms, also called something else), N. eustachya had not even been described yet, and was considered to be a distant form of N. alata. - Rich

[Dave Evans]

Hey Rich, I think we should publish this info in the CPN, and maybe actually name this famous clone; since people really do like it. Kill two birds with one stone...

Since Latinized words cannot be used for cultivar name, how about something like "Longwood's Error"? Just kidding.

[rsivertsen]

Hey Dave, I've thought about writing something up on those plants many times over the years. Looking back on it now, the staff at Longwood must have wondered what kind of arrogant nut case I was coming into their place with all their well educated and experienced pedigreed horticulturalists originally brought over from Kew Gardens (Pat Nutt et al), with their crown jewel collection of Nepenthes, (and orchids) and here I was, some nobody 20+ something kid from Brooklyn, NY, telling them that their Nepenthes plants are all labeled wrong! Kinda' funny now that I reflect back on it after all these years!

They actually became rather accepting of me when I started to bring a lot of new material to them.

They had:

N. dyeriana labeled as N. dicksoniana
N. mixta superba labeled as N. superba
N. alata - red labeled as N. stenophylla (this one had slightly vaulted lids, and not as oblique angle to its peristome as their N. burkei) and N. burkei
N. alata green labeled as N. boschiana
N. fusca x N. albomarginata labeled as N. wittei
N. maxima labeled as N. curtisii

Maybe a few others, but that's what I can recall for now.

Again, without any collection data on any of these plants, the best we can do is to assign a cultivar name to these plants, and I think enough people already know them by their current names. I see no point in adding any more confusion to this mess. The "boschiana" was always one of my favorites as it also gets quite large, about 70% larger than the other green forms of N. alata, and those bulbous bottom pitchers just get bigger and bigger as they go into climbing form! I've seen them nearly a foot long in Longwood!

- Rich

[wijaya]

Adding some more, taken this weekend:
N. rafflesiana (first upper):





N. clipeata x eymae (BE)



N. ventricosa x maxima



Ed