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Post by leilani on Jul 28, 2012 13:24:54 GMT -10
Just when I was starting to feel that N. x Tiveyi (red from ep) is becoming overexposed this plant throws out the biggest pitcher (12") it has every produced in my care. So, here it is ..... _____________________________________________ Talking about "overexposed" ...... Does anyone else feel like N. x Briggsiana / lowii x ventricosa(ep) is becoming the Nicholas Cage of Nepenthes.
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Post by william9in on Jul 28, 2012 13:49:11 GMT -10
Love that one Sam!!!
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Post by Domgravine06 on Jul 28, 2012 16:17:46 GMT -10
holy molyyy!!!!!!!!! well not to surprised all your plants looked like that when i use to visit!
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Post by kevnep on Jul 29, 2012 5:01:25 GMT -10
Well if you think briggsiana is overexposed now just wait a month or four, a secret lurks in the wind...
Why do you think its overexposed?
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Post by Domgravine06 on Jul 29, 2012 7:22:54 GMT -10
Well Lots of people are getting there hands on them and more and more cuttings are becoming available...so as pretty as it is the more you see something the more dull it becomes...if everyone had amorphophallus titanum as hedges it would be such a boring plant! ...and the world would stink! lol
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Post by bobh on Jul 29, 2012 7:35:09 GMT -10
Very nice. I think that is the most impressive x Tiveyi I have seen.
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Post by dirtbiketina on Jul 31, 2012 5:45:23 GMT -10
it is by far the most impressive
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Post by whimgrinder on Jul 31, 2012 7:38:50 GMT -10
I cannot imagine ever using the adjective "dull" to describe any of the clones of Briggsiana, no matter how ubiquitous it becomes. Do people think S. Judith Hindle is "dull"?? Surely she is the poster girl for ubiquity!
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Post by dvg on Jul 31, 2012 9:47:30 GMT -10
Beautiful red Tiveyi Leilani.
Can't say i've ever been enamoured with Briggsiana's grotesquely distorted and mangled looking peristome....
...always looks like it has a thrip infestation going on with it.
dvg
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Post by leilani on Jul 31, 2012 14:41:00 GMT -10
I did not say that I find Briggsiana / lowii x ventricosa unattractive. On the contrary, the picture in Peter D's book, years ago, made it one I had to have. It's a gem of a plant that is a solid, consistent grower and makes great pitchers. My problem, as with many things outside of just Nepenthes, is that I quickly sour on "over-exposure". Assimilation into the wider culture desublimates the subject in some respects. The edge comes off and Briggsiana becomes the new Ventrata. I won't watch a movie with Nicholas Cage in it anymore!
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Post by whimgrinder on Jul 31, 2012 19:19:30 GMT -10
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Post by kevnep on Jul 31, 2012 22:58:19 GMT -10
Well dom has a point there if you see something enough it becomes duller than it was but whether this will be the case with briggiana var. Pda is yet to be seen
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Post by kevnep on Jul 31, 2012 22:59:35 GMT -10
By the way sam great plants! That tiveyi isnt the maxima x veitchii sarawak red from ep is it? I bought one of those last year and i must say best buy ever!
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Post by dvg on Aug 1, 2012 7:09:28 GMT -10
Just opinions here Leilani, and yours is just as good as anyone else's. You think Briggsiana is overexposed...i think it's ugly - even had a closer look at the back cover of 'Savage Garden' last night and wasn't deterred in that thinking. If anything, i think veitchii (k) from EP may have been over exposed in the past few months. And i have an easier time watching Nic Cage than i do Tom Cruise. Lastly, Dom Gravine is right in his thinking that the more we see of something, regardless of how beautiful it originally looked when we first saw it, over time the novelty does wear off and the bloom is off the rose as the saying goes, and the exceptional becomes the mundane. But if we can step away from said object or thing for awhile, when we return to it, we might still be able to recapture some of the old magic again. dvg
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Post by kevnep on Aug 1, 2012 8:46:11 GMT -10
Dvg how would you suggedt we do that? Should we cast them aside for a few years into a dark corner? I think youre on the right track of thinking, maybe we should take steps to avoid this wonderful and most likely historic hybrid becoming just as sam put it another mundane ventrata?
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