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Post by wijaya on May 1, 2008 4:27:57 GMT -10
Been growing this one for six months: These are the fourth pitcher so far    Ed |
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Post by gymnamphora on May 1, 2008 7:33:07 GMT -10
Nice looking pitcher Ed..but,
It's look like hybrid with N.spectabilis.
Thank's
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Post by nepsaroundthehouse on May 1, 2008 15:31:14 GMT -10
Here's a photo of my N. rigidifolia.  My newest pitchers are darker than this but the point is that there is not striping on the peristome. Where did your plant originate from? As I recall the first specimens came from Malesiana and then BE had some for a while and then not a word for quite some time. In fact it was Tony Paroubek who had some small ones last year or longer. It does resemble some N. spectabilis in the peristome. Joel |
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Post by phissionkorps on May 1, 2008 17:47:56 GMT -10
Ed,
It appears Adrian is correct in labeling your plant a hybrid with spectabilis. IMO, it looks to spectabilisy to be just rigidifolia.
Great plants both you and Joel though. I've always wanted to try this species, but I'm not sure how it'd do for me. I'm trying to branch out and see what HLs I can grow (since I already have about 85% of LL species...the rest I can't find). My fusca Sarawak doesn't blink at my temps. I'm trying a gymnamphora right now, and I'm heavily leaning towards a "carunculata" (or bongso, depending on who you are) to see if I can grow that.
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Post by nepsaroundthehouse on May 2, 2008 4:14:09 GMT -10
Phish,
If you try some HLs in your warmer climate, let me suggest boschiana, fuscas, burbidgeae, veitchii (if you can find them), platychila, sibuyanensis, alatas, and BE's truncata highland. Those are a few that come to mind that are sold as highlanders that I've found suffer more when the temperatures drop too much. I think these will do alright under intermediate conditions. Even ventricosas do better in intermediate temps and not as cold as other highlanders I grow outdoors. Just a thought.
Joel
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Post by wijaya on May 2, 2008 5:18:44 GMT -10
The size of pitcher and coloration change quite much, this is the picture of the pitcher when I first got the plant, can u believe this?   the same plant but now when u mentioned that it looks like Spectabilis, I do think there is similarity on peristome color, except the pitcher is more oval in shape. Probably a hybrid? Ed |
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Post by phissionkorps on May 2, 2008 9:31:02 GMT -10
Joel,
Thanks for the suggestions. I've got the Wistuba boschiana and it seems to be shrinking. I had sibuyanensis but traded it after a month or 2. Fusca does well for me, but I need to find burbidgeae, etc. What do you think about spathulata?
Ed,
Nice plant. Still kind of looks like a hybrid to me. Maybe I'm wrong...
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Post by longor on May 5, 2008 15:27:10 GMT -10
its definitely a hybrid, N.Aptera doesn't have a hip, or a striped persitome. Its very hard to get a pure aptera species, as it grows sympatric with spectabilis, and there is a lot more spectabilis than aptera, at least at the location that I went to.
Cheers
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Post by rainforest on May 5, 2008 15:33:16 GMT -10
Longor,
This sounds like another investigation is in order. Perhaps a revisitation to the site, maybe with a side trip to see the relationship between N. platychila and fusca.
I think what we are seeing are the effects of a selective group of species making their evolutionary pathway to either merge into one species or interbreed and come away with something to work with. This has been evident in many sympatric species growing together.
M
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Post by longor on May 6, 2008 7:47:53 GMT -10
Hi Michael, I've actually visited the area twice, there was about 5 mature plants of Aptera when we went there, but sadly there was more plants at local nurseries at the nearby town. I don't know of any other location, apparently there is more to the north, but that would require a considerable amount of time. as for Platy, is outside my juristiction, maybe Robert or Mike, can help us out |
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Post by nepsaroundthehouse on May 6, 2008 15:58:45 GMT -10
Phish,
Try spathulata. There are many plants around so give it a try. And besides, they're not that expensive anyway. I think spathulata might be more forgiving than other highlanders.
Joel
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Post by cloudsitter on May 21, 2008 21:03:22 GMT -10
Phissi,
N. burbidgea I wouldn't try unless your highest temps were at tops of 75˚F. mine is barely hanging in from what I can tell and it's get temps from 75-95˚F day and misting every four hours for 42 minutes. But if yours was from seed or something else that might help it adjust to warmer temps then maybe it could... ...maybe.
Rob
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