N. thorelii x TM May 28, 2008 8:03:22 GMT -10 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by rainforest on May 28, 2008 8:03:22 GMT -10 Here are some thorelii x TM clones:A very squat form that has stayed consistently squat even with these pup pitchers.I'll post more as I can get to them.M