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Post by rainforest on Apr 25, 2009 15:43:46 GMT -10
Has anyone received K. Wong's spathulata? I believe he made the cross using a male and female N. spathulata. This is what I grew from my lot. I am not porposing that this is a hybrid, but perhaps either one of his spathulata might be a hybrid. Or this may very well be across contamination with maxima. Note the big leaf to the right of this shot, is the leaf of this plant. What do you guys think? M
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Post by obregon562 on Apr 26, 2009 7:33:30 GMT -10
i have one of his spath x boschianas, and have to say it is hard to find spath in it. Its one of my favorite hybrids though, so either way im happy.
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Post by sdcarnivores on Apr 26, 2009 8:39:40 GMT -10
Looks like spathulata x maxima to me.
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Post by rainforest on Apr 27, 2009 11:55:24 GMT -10
This cross is different from the spath x boschiana. I got this as a spath x spath.
Just curious if anyone else got his spath x spath. plants. M
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Post by sockhom on Apr 27, 2009 12:27:54 GMT -10
Hi Michael,
This is certainly not a spathulata. Any chance you might show us a pictures of the whole leaf?
Speak soon,
François.
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Post by Marcello Catalano on Apr 29, 2009 0:21:11 GMT -10
Hi Michael, if that's spathulata, I'm Napoleon A label "spathulata x spathulata" doesn't make any sense, and I don't think it means that he made this plant using a female spathulata and a male spathulata, also because - if it was - it would be quite obvious I suspect that he was writing "spathulata x somethingelse", he made a mistake and just repeated the first name twice...
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Post by rainforest on Apr 29, 2009 8:17:38 GMT -10
Sam, Did you receive any of his spathulata at the time when he made spath x boschiana and spath x maxima?
M
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Post by cp on May 1, 2009 16:50:57 GMT -10
Hi Michael,
I was wondering how your spathulatas were doing. I'm not sure what happened there. None of my plants look like that. My guess is that there was some mixup in the labeling or pollen or seeds. My seedlings ended up looking like spathulata (but not all are mature yet). Did just one of your spathulatas look like that? Did it just start looking like that when it got close to maturity or did it start looking like that early on? It looks a lot like maxima x boschiana to me. That cross was made at roughly the same time. How does it compare to your maxima x boschianas?
Kevin
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Post by unclemasa on May 1, 2009 17:39:58 GMT -10
Hey cp .... I was thinking maxima x boschiana too. I think I recall some seeds from you labeled as 'spathulata' that look more like maxima x boschiana. I think I also had a second batch labeled as 'spathulata' that were true. There are seedlings still out in the nursery somewhere .... I'll look to see if I can find them. I also had some spathulata x boschiana seeds that took off nicely. I think I have about a half-dozen nice ones at about 8". My maxima x boschiana did well for a while but eventually faded away. I have grown out a couple of the spathulata x boschiana ( .. a male and a female) and have even crossed it with a few things. I can't tell you how much I like this plant! Easy to grow, nice full leaves, great lowers and, my favorite, fantastic uppers. I really deserves a name.
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Post by rainforest on May 2, 2009 10:38:41 GMT -10
I did find that the maximas x bosch got into the vining stage rapidly (possibly a maxima trait) and the spath x bosch remained more compact with multi side pups. The spath x bosch has flowered for me a few times yet I have not had good results in making a cross on it. I might need to take it into a more confined space as this plant is growing high atop a wall in full sun and strong wind conditions. That part of the house I always felt that I could run windmills for wind power due to the constant wind going on there 24/7. But the spath x bosch really likes that area with nice compact leaves and colorful dark pitchers! I really like this hybrid and it is truly regal. If they gave Judith Finn a name, then this one could surely be called Kevin Wong!
M
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Post by cp on May 14, 2009 20:35:28 GMT -10
Here's some more information about the seed grown spathulatas. The mom is the spathulata clone that was one of the few (or perhaps only one) available in the United States for many years. Nearly all the spathulata plants available were female. I purchased many plants from various sources, but they all turned out female. The last spathulata I bought was a small plant from CP Jungle maybe 8 years ago. This plant turned out to be male. One year, both plants flowered at the same time and seeds were produced. Hopefully these new, seed grown plants will increase the genetic diversity of this species. Below are photos of both parents as well as some of the offspring at various stages of development. cp --------------------------------------- Mom Dad Seedlings:
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Post by rainforest on May 31, 2009 7:57:54 GMT -10
Here is a few more images of this plant. Opening pitcher Leaf Compared with N. maxima x boschiana opening pitcher and maxima x boschiana matured pitcher The plant in question is a lot different than either the maxima x boschiana and spathulata x boschiana. Any clues on this yet? M
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